tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post4565123881261157696..comments2024-03-01T05:31:44.635-05:00Comments on The Village Carpenter: Fitting the LegsKari Hultmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-27339488789469756432012-02-07T14:13:49.058-05:002012-02-07T14:13:49.058-05:00Thanks for posting all the information, Brian.
Je...Thanks for posting all the information, Brian.<br /><br />Jeff, that's great that you're encouraging your daughter to get into woodworking!<br /><br />Joe, you nailed it—careful layout and sawing is everything. Hope your class with Jim Tolpin was fun and educational.<br /><br />Charles, I posted a write-up about this right after this post. Thanks for the question.Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-81047346647878796052012-02-06T09:35:16.993-05:002012-02-06T09:35:16.993-05:00Kari..On one of your responses you mentioned you w...Kari..On one of your responses you mentioned you were not glueing the two top boards together for ease of mobility. Question are you going to spline or t&g them to keep them aligned and together?<br />Your doing a g job keep it up<br />CharlesCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00660486510111142002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-17810458861795222132012-02-05T11:32:10.340-05:002012-02-05T11:32:10.340-05:00Looks great Kari! Hopefully I'll be doing thi...Looks great Kari! Hopefully I'll be doing this soon, my legs have been drying for about 4 weeks now. <br /><br />I'm at a dovetail class this weekend with Jim Tolpin, and I'm realizing that (for me anyway) dovetails are all about being able to saw accurately to my layout lines. I suspect that holds true for most joinery.<br /><br />JoeMcGlynn On Makinghttp://mcglynnonmaking.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-65558389901751503452012-02-04T14:35:19.361-05:002012-02-04T14:35:19.361-05:00MWH
Oh man, sounds like I am going to have to go ...MWH<br /><br />Oh man, sounds like I am going to have to go out and clean up the shop in the morning :-) But I should have taken photos while I was building it anyway.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135597487554229462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-66910889020087359832012-02-03T21:54:22.505-05:002012-02-03T21:54:22.505-05:00I am showing your blog post to my 21 year old daug...I am showing your blog post to my 21 year old daughter in hopes some of your awesome work will rub off on her.Jeff Branchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01402561454519694074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-2495039320334657502012-02-03T21:00:18.255-05:002012-02-03T21:00:18.255-05:00Thanks for the advice, Brian. Do you have a pictu...Thanks for the advice, Brian. Do you have a picture of your bench somewhere online?mwhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08202670246362616005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-89287507677563540522012-02-03T09:22:29.724-05:002012-02-03T09:22:29.724-05:00Kari, one of the things I like about your blog is ...Kari, one of the things I like about your blog is that you don't pretend or imply that it is quick or easy to do good work, for most of us anyway. <br /><br />MWH, if I might make a suggestion, I just finished a new bench, and also wanted it to be transportable in case I moved. I chose more of a Nicholson approach. The legs are two mortise and tenon R frames. Then the front skirt/plank with Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135597487554229462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-65806576346539425192012-02-02T17:18:12.443-05:002012-02-02T17:18:12.443-05:00Nik and Aaron, thanks for the link to Dyami's ...Nik and Aaron, thanks for the link to Dyami's video. Chris said it took him an hour to cut the mortise. Wow! Mine took, well....a lot longer. He's right that the dovetail's mortise does not take as long as the tenon's mortise. <br /><br />Frank, that is half of the top. You are correct. I do not plan to glue the two halves together, however, so that I'll be able to lift them.Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-33000524151021085042012-02-02T12:58:57.696-05:002012-02-02T12:58:57.696-05:00Here's another one with your joint.
http://w...Here's another one with your joint. <br /><br />http://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/279530193.htm?ca=7_s<br /><br />I have seen a number of various designs in junk and antique shops too, but never thought to take photos.<br /><br />Cheers, BrianBrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135597487554229462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-73529932145803220482012-02-02T10:36:16.662-05:002012-02-02T10:36:16.662-05:00Have to get out to get the girls from school. But ...Have to get out to get the girls from school. But here's a link to a well used and old one with the double/dovetailed joint<br /><br />http://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/282156241.htm?ca=7_s<br /><br />here's a single<br /><br />http://www.leboncoin.fr/decoration/282102461.htm?ca=7_s<br /><br />I'll have another look this evening. But if you are in work avoidance mode, as I am right Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135597487554229462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-2573707549880766152012-02-02T10:26:59.311-05:002012-02-02T10:26:59.311-05:00The joint looks great; what I've come to know ...The joint looks great; what I've come to know as vintage Village Carpenter.<br /><br />I was curious about your "sliver of gap". Are you concerned that this bit of looseness will make your bench susceptible to racking?<br /><br />This is not merely an academic question. I'm preparing to make a simplified Roubo bench (a la one of Schwarz's many published variations of this mwhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08202670246362616005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-34444189164432556152012-02-02T10:08:21.010-05:002012-02-02T10:08:21.010-05:00Great work on the first leg, Kari.
I noticed that ...Great work on the first leg, Kari.<br />I noticed that your top board is only about 10" wide, so you must have decided to cut your mortises first, before gluing up the complete top - for ease of handling. Good planning. The complete top will weigh a ton and would have been tough to handle in the different positions as you pared away and did the test fitting. Keep up the great work!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-19979158130286424522012-02-02T09:41:55.016-05:002012-02-02T09:41:55.016-05:00Yup, Aaron is correct: see Dyami's video of Ch...Yup, Aaron is correct: see Dyami's video of Chris Schwarz's explanation of the sliding dovetail(around the 6 minute mark) http://bit.ly/wJWI5yMansfield Fine Furniture - Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820965377802823749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-40949950784638759462012-02-02T09:28:12.916-05:002012-02-02T09:28:12.916-05:00Regarding the leg joint, I've heard Christophe...Regarding the leg joint, I've heard Christopher Schwarz give a talk about the design. Dyami has some great videos here: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL23F5C0391E4205BF<br /><br />From what I recall, you want a double tenon for strength and seasonal movement. Converting the front tenon to the open dovetail socket is for ease of construction - it's much easier to saw away the Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01879840169199074978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-87925075278012149612012-02-02T09:23:48.840-05:002012-02-02T09:23:48.840-05:00whoops, sorry for the double post, feel free to de...whoops, sorry for the double post, feel free to delete the redundant one.Mansfield Fine Furniture - Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820965377802823749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-76953503018829486192012-02-02T09:23:01.033-05:002012-02-02T09:23:01.033-05:00I was wondering about the steepness of the angle t...I was wondering about the steepness of the angle too. When I did mine, I laid it out first with a more common 1:7 or 1:8, then decided it didn't look right, and just made an arbitrary angle with the gauge until it looked about right, then stuck with that. I'm trying to determine what advantages going all the way to 45 might give, any insight?<br /><br />FWIW, I read 3-4 workbench books, Mansfield Fine Furniture - Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820965377802823749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-12773195883906220952012-02-02T09:22:26.347-05:002012-02-02T09:22:26.347-05:00I was wondering about the steepness of the angle t...I was wondering about the steepness of the angle too. When I did mine, I laid it out first with a more common 1:7 or 1:8, then decided it didn't look right, and just made an arbitrary angle with the gauge until it looked about right, then stuck with that. I'm trying to determine what advantages going all the way to 45 might give, any insight?<br /><br />FWIW, I read 3-4 workbench books, Nickhttp://mansfieldfinefurniture.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-1072814316558611522012-02-02T06:10:27.318-05:002012-02-02T06:10:27.318-05:00Rob, I'll dig around to see if I can find a be...Rob, I'll dig around to see if I can find a better explanation for the joint other than what I wrote above. I chose to use it because I like the look of it and I like the challenge.Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-38551372105189257942012-02-02T06:09:13.353-05:002012-02-02T06:09:13.353-05:00Thank you, Fluffy Woodworker. :o)
Marilyn, the gl...Thank you, Fluffy Woodworker. :o)<br /><br />Marilyn, the gloves prevent my hands from being the least bit tired. They're pretty thick/padded. <br /><br />PR, that's not a stupid question at all. The bench design and odd exposed joinery is from an 18th-century book on woodworking written by Andre Roubo. Chris Schwarz built this bench and wrote about it in his second workbench book. I Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-53586938541794447312012-02-02T05:57:29.659-05:002012-02-02T05:57:29.659-05:00I'm another curious as to the reason for that ...I'm another curious as to the reason for that unusual joint. Was it a Roubo 'trademark', so it has to be done this way for historical accuracy, or is there a technical advantage?<br />Sure looks pretty, though, and your craftsmanship is fantastic!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12042650405946029324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-40752014472021312502012-02-02T01:56:46.415-05:002012-02-02T01:56:46.415-05:00Beautifull work! I like your benchtop!one piece?Beautifull work! I like your benchtop!one piece?vlad jucanhttp://workbench-notes.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-60445562623918268782012-02-02T00:24:58.595-05:002012-02-02T00:24:58.595-05:00Your bench is looking good!Your bench is looking good!Frontier Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02943729464934284498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-53371218988303737332012-02-01T23:20:08.023-05:002012-02-01T23:20:08.023-05:00Nice job Kari!Nice job Kari!mokusakusensei--woods teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485418248370104706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-76207770754486946692012-02-01T22:51:51.193-05:002012-02-01T22:51:51.193-05:00Looks great Kari. The tennon popping through the t...Looks great Kari. The tennon popping through the top is so well fitted, that it doesn't even look like a through-tennon. It looks like an off-cut just sitting on your benchtop. Really well done.<br /><br />Jonathan<br />========================Jonathan Szczepanskihttp://www.whiteandredworks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-26657810856100314292012-02-01T22:28:42.867-05:002012-02-01T22:28:42.867-05:00I had the same question about the Ruobo benches - ...I had the same question about the Ruobo benches - why the extreme angle on the outside dovetailed through tenon for the leg? And for that matter, why the dovetail at all? I live in France and have seen benches made that way, but have also seen old benches with a single or double through-tenon. Maybe I am slow, but it seems kind of a fussy joint to cut, and in my admittedly limited experience, Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135597487554229462noreply@blogger.com