tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post2414379384904881077..comments2024-03-01T05:31:44.635-05:00Comments on The Village Carpenter: Japanese SawsKari Hultmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-4703776616574989812011-02-27T19:02:01.388-05:002011-02-27T19:02:01.388-05:00Anon, have you tried steel wool to remove the rust...Anon, have you tried steel wool to remove the rust?Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-86985565870876908382011-02-25T14:48:28.635-05:002011-02-25T14:48:28.635-05:00Hello - I just get a rusted maebiki and I would li...Hello - I just get a rusted maebiki and I would like to know how to restore it (just getting the rust away and oil it) - I should use camellia oil after, but what to take the rust away without damaging the saw ? (sorry for the english, I am french speaking) - thank you for your adviceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-69899565062296985632008-11-21T21:49:00.000-05:002008-11-21T21:49:00.000-05:00Geemoney the "maebiki's" kerf is only 1/32" but th...<B>Geemoney</B> the <I>"maebiki's"</I> kerf is only 1/32" but the blade alone weights 2.2 lbs. It needs to be cleaned of all the rust, re-polished and the handle needs some TLC too, but most of the teeth as still surprisingly sharp.<BR/><BR/><B>VC</B>, I'll be glad to help in anything I can. Not that this might be much but I'll do my best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-88914749936420650212008-11-21T13:50:00.000-05:002008-11-21T13:50:00.000-05:00Jojo, the maebiki saw is very cool. And cooler ye...Jojo, the maebiki saw is very cool. And cooler yet that you're going to restore it so it can be used again. Thanks for posting the photo and thanks for adding to the explanation of the azebiki saw. : )<BR/><BR/>Geemoney, it's all about sharing info and learning from one another so you can post any comment you like. ; )Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-37049992547339063142008-11-21T12:43:00.000-05:002008-11-21T12:43:00.000-05:00VC-Thanks for taking the time to look into that. ...VC-<BR/><BR/>Thanks for taking the time to look into that. I will contact Dan; I had seen some of the pictures with his students on his site and it looks like he knows how to do what I need. Hopefully that will tranfer over the intertubes.<BR/><BR/>Jojo-<BR/><BR/>That is one amazing saw, and you weren't kidding about it being the small version. Phew. How thick is the blade on that bad boy? Geemoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03555111891001242479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-55731699741768663252008-11-21T11:24:00.000-05:002008-11-21T11:24:00.000-05:00Kari, I forgot to answer you, I'm sorry.Don't trus...<B>Kari</B>, I forgot to answer you, I'm sorry.<BR/><BR/>Don't trust the site, I don't know what went wrong last time I updated it but it's all screwed up. I'll try to fix it this weekend. What it is listed under the brand name "Gyokucho" is actually an <I>"azebiki"</I>, so you got the name perfectly right. It is a panel saw that I love. It allows you to do things such as cutting drawer frames Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-26531243698003739402008-11-21T11:13:00.000-05:002008-11-21T11:13:00.000-05:00Last anonymous commenter clearly understand Japane...Last anonymous commenter clearly understand Japanese saws.<BR/><BR/><B>Kari</B>, your last video is amazing! I can't imagine anything sexier than a woman all dressed up sawing a board, with a glass of wine waiting besides on the workbench. I'll pass on the kitsch musical touch though... ;o)<BR/><BR/><B>Geemoney</B>, I'm afraid what you really need is something that is impossible to get anymore, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-48074475349049357052008-11-21T09:55:00.000-05:002008-11-21T09:55:00.000-05:00Thanks for clearing that up about the saw maker, G...Thanks for clearing that up about the saw maker, Geemoney.<BR/><BR/>I emailed Adam Cherubini about his frame saw and he said "Mine is a copy of the one in Roubo. Wmsburg has one and they can saw veneer with theirs. It has 6tpi. My saw has 2! I'm having trouble with it. I think it needs more set. It cuts fast but is impossible to correct (gotta be set)."<BR/><BR/>I have never used a frame Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-28004248133445904272008-11-21T07:17:00.000-05:002008-11-21T07:17:00.000-05:00I find the Western saw ergonomics to be a bit too ...I find the Western saw ergonomics to be a bit too awkward for me to handle and find Japanese saws more enjoyable to use. Jojo makes several excellent points. You can also use both hands to hold a Japanese saw but never use brute force. You let the saw do the cutting (barely putting pressure on it) and it will track perfectly with a smooth cut. A waltz rather than disco...:-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-43124374074511249772008-11-21T03:21:00.000-05:002008-11-21T03:21:00.000-05:00VC-I haven't looked up the picture you're talking ...VC-<BR/><BR/>I haven't looked up the picture you're talking about, but Gyokucho is the brand name of a Japanese saw maker. At least, those are the folks that made my Ryoba.<BR/><BR/>And as long as I am here, and we are talking about saws, my interest in the frame saw has everything to do with using one to resaw stock by hand. Do you have any experience with that? I am bandsaw challenged, but Geemoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03555111891001242479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-2082661513942757372008-11-20T18:58:00.000-05:002008-11-20T18:58:00.000-05:00Well, for me the only Manilow would be "On a Slow ...Well, for me the only Manilow would be "On a Slow Boat to China" with Bette Middler. Now top that... :o)<BR/><BR/>Although now that I think, it's slow enough to get you some smooth and productive cuts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-66457481844713367352008-11-20T16:42:00.000-05:002008-11-20T16:42:00.000-05:00I attended this session as well. I'll say I have ...I attended this session as well. I'll say I have good back saws and Japanese. I prefer the Japanese pull saws. Harrelson did confirm that if you start out crooked, the cut will be crooked. There's no correcting the cut in the middle. That problem should be corrected with practice. Since you're pulling the work down to the bench, I must agree the saw makes sense. With through cuts, Jim cut Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02081223124066853649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-59537360689891632882008-11-20T14:28:00.000-05:002008-11-20T14:28:00.000-05:00I could suggest, "Looks Like We Made It", but that...I could suggest, "Looks Like We Made It", but that would be too obvious. Given that we are talking Barry Manilow, though, I'll stick with "Halfway Over the Hill", and believe me, I'm being halfway kind here ; )<BR/><BR/>MitchellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-86174425828155754462008-11-20T12:09:00.000-05:002008-11-20T12:09:00.000-05:00Gosh, Shazza, I don't know...there are so many goo...Gosh, Shazza, I don't know...there are so many good ones. "Mandy"?Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-27157709769370055032008-11-20T12:03:00.000-05:002008-11-20T12:03:00.000-05:00Which Barry Manilow song are you going to use? Tr...Which Barry Manilow song are you going to use? Trying to Get the Feelin' Again?Shazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02196666013653201878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-42749862508677219322008-11-20T11:24:00.000-05:002008-11-20T11:24:00.000-05:00Do to the overwhelmingly positive responses, my ne...Do to the overwhelmingly positive responses, my next ww video will feature Barry Manilow as the recording artist.<BR/><BR/>The only frame saw I noticed at the conference was being used by Adam Cherubini at his booth, but I don't think any of the seminars discussed them. I'll see what I can find out and let you know. They are very cool. I love turning saws, as well.<BR/><BR/>Jojo, I checked out Kari Hultmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224053263659415329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-42004691054875630002008-11-20T10:07:00.000-05:002008-11-20T10:07:00.000-05:00I also have steered away from Japanese saws becaus...I also have steered away from Japanese saws because I didn't like the ergonomics of the handle. After reading Jojo's comment I see that it was incorrect for me to hold the saw with the handle nearly parallel to my forearm.<BR/><BR/>Geemoney mentioned frame saws. And I'm also interested in them. Seems with those you get the best of East and West: a thin blade under tension that cuts on the johnjoinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927982106157794325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-7818380525926134472008-11-20T09:19:00.000-05:002008-11-20T09:19:00.000-05:00Let's not forget that Manilow wrote the immortal M...Let's not forget that Manilow wrote the immortal McDonald's Theme Song.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-42946798958762776132008-11-20T09:07:00.001-05:002008-11-20T09:07:00.001-05:00Kari!! Barry Manilow???Kari!! Barry Manilow???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-16647223823671607922008-11-20T09:07:00.000-05:002008-11-20T09:07:00.000-05:00Kari!! Barry Manilow???Kari!! Barry Manilow???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-51489588835531126262008-11-20T06:45:00.000-05:002008-11-20T06:45:00.000-05:00First comes the disclaimer: I sell Japanese saws, ...First comes the disclaimer: I sell Japanese saws, among all kinds of Japanese Tools.<BR/><BR/>But then, I do sell them not only because of my situation makes me able to get any Japanese tool very easily (I live in Kyoto, Japan) but, mainly, because I love the way they cut. Many years ago I fell in love with them and they've never deceived me.<BR/><BR/>The main problem people has with pull-style Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-64503815740503509262008-11-20T05:58:00.000-05:002008-11-20T05:58:00.000-05:00Discussions about tool preferences are always a bi...Discussions about tool preferences are always a bit tough.<BR/><BR/>I like Japanese saws a great deal, but I also have to say that, in my relatively short history with woodworking, I have used them together with Western saws and so have worked to improve with both.<BR/><BR/>The thinner kerf is, for me a big plus, and the quality of the cut on my Japanese saws is (and this is likely my own fault) Geemoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03555111891001242479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-13194270652126155262008-11-20T05:08:00.000-05:002008-11-20T05:08:00.000-05:00I find myself in the 'no thank-you' camp when it c...I find myself in the 'no thank-you' camp when it comes to pull-saws. My indoctrination was by way of a $100 rip-tooth dozuki. A very fine saw, no doubt, but I don't like the stick handles - I greatly prefer a pistol grip, open or closed, for registration. I also don't like how the saw tends to pull fibres that blur the line you're cutting to. It seemed I spent more time blowing sawdust off ofMetalworker Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13764592666915257980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-52013976348999376572008-11-20T04:03:00.000-05:002008-11-20T04:03:00.000-05:00Forgot...please, please, no Manilow, ever, under a...Forgot...please, please, no Manilow, ever, under any cicumstances - RobWoodblokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04573880625129679293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8128369950831173916.post-38608582380243845492008-11-20T04:00:00.000-05:002008-11-20T04:00:00.000-05:00Kari - I had a brief dabble with Jap saws a few ye...Kari - I had a brief dabble with Jap saws a few years ago but couldn't get on with them. The work they're generaly designed to do is in on site carpentry work in softwood...hence the reason for no bench. I'd make a small wager that the timber that they were demonstrated on was a softwood? When you try them out in a hard cabinet making timber (say oak or maple) the performence is much less Woodblokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04573880625129679293noreply@blogger.com